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Old 01-05-2010, 07:55 AM   #1
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Default Paradise fish betta cross

I have seen some guys post about a Paradise fish betta fighter from vet do any have a pic of this fish? do any one have any info on this fish?
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Old 01-05-2010, 08:29 AM   #2
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oh yup, the paradise fish has been discussed in this forum quite sometimes ago. i believe you could get the movie from youtube. anyway, you may be dissappointed to see the way this fish fight. as their bodies are stiff, thus their fighting style aren't as elegant as plakad.

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Old 01-05-2010, 03:30 PM   #3
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how do you get these 2 different fish to breed?
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Old 01-05-2010, 08:04 PM   #4
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I think crossing a paradise fish and a plakat fighter will ruin the fighting line big time. They both have different fighting style, different heart and so on. But chances of these 2 breeding are very low, betta breeding style is just different from paradise fish.
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Old 01-07-2010, 08:39 AM   #5
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yup, they are of different species, not likely of breeding them...

for example, we can't breed rat with a squirrel ...

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Old 01-07-2010, 02:44 PM   #6
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I used to think that bettas cannot be crossbred with other anabantoids, but I later found that could be wrong.
It would be interesting if somebody cross paradise fish with betta to extract good gene from paradise fish. Paradise fish have tough scales and powerful hit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErYp4...layer_embedded wild-caught paradise fish fight

I followed all the reports of betta crossbreeding with other species. Here's what I collected.
1) Many years ago, a person from Canada posted on Malaysian Betta Yahoo club that he was able to breed bettas x paradise and have eggs but didn't hatch.
2) A member on Vietnamese forum claimed that he cross-bred them when he was a schoolboy. The eggs hatch but his father dumped them when they were a few day-old b/c of his poor schoolwork. He added that in order to get them to breed, there's a trick. He used male betta and female paradise fish b/c the eggs will float and survive . If male paradise x female betta, eggs sink and male paradise will not be able to collect them . His writing seemed honest though, so I believe him.
3) I found this answer in ultimatebettas.com forum
http://www.ultimatebettas.com/index.php?showtopic=29921

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Hybrids are still considered "taboo" in the betta breeding world, but I am seeing them pop up more so maybe that attitude will change..... what dogsnfish said is true "...if you aren't willing to put years into it....then you might be better off working with something else... Also, don't let people know what you are doing if you are trying to attain a new strain.....copy cats would arise. Just my opinion." I will not post pictures. Sorry, just try to google it and see what comes up.

If you really want to do something new you will need the dedication to follow it through. About 5 years ago I started experimenting with bettas and blue paradise fish. Me and a breeder in Georgia met and exchanged ideas and stock,
we recorded and documented our fish and did several experiments over the next couple of months, hybridizing paradise fish and splendens..... the result............ well......... very ugly fish......... lol....... did our experiment work.... ya.....
We scrapped the project after 10 months and decided not to pursue it any longer. We had done what we set out to do.... so what im saying is if you want to do this keep it a secret in your fish room................ lol...........
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4) Bettas maybe able to crossbred with croaking gourami.
An senior player from Vietnam suggested that if good female fighter is not obtainable, one can start the fighting line from crossbreeding a good fighter with a female croaking gourami. Later, various forum members confirmed that they did the cross out of curiosity but the baby grew up very ugly and shy so they didn't pursue the project .
Many people argue that croaking gourami are very wild and shy, not good in fighting but other claims different. One person put a bamboo strainer underneath the nest of croaking gourami in a ditch and put a male betta (don't know if it was a fighting line) in. The gourami made a quick attack without much flaring . Very strong and fast, after a few hit, the betta ran . He said croaking gourami made powerful hit and accurate compared to bettas.

If crossing paradise fish to fighting line, using black paradise Macropodus spechti or M. erythropterus is probably better since the black paradise are known to be more aggressive than the more common M. opercularis. The body look more stout and big mouth .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v3Bwf47NNo

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Old 01-09-2010, 10:48 AM   #7
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croaking gourami fighting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyTwC...layer_embedded
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Old 01-09-2010, 10:58 AM   #8
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whoa that video is really cool haha. look like bettas too
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This really interest me.... Hmmmmm got my thinking cap on lol
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